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first off I would like to thank you for 17 00:01:23,810 --> 00:01:22,380 the challenging yet wonderful work that 18 00:01:26,330 --> 00:01:23,820 you are doing in the important 19 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:26,340 contribution that you are making to the 20 00:01:30,710 --> 00:01:28,320 ever expanding database of one of 21 00:01:33,469 --> 00:01:30,720 humankind's greatest enduring and most 22 00:01:36,469 --> 00:01:33,479 profound Mysteries my first experience 23 00:01:39,050 --> 00:01:36,479 occurred back in 1993 when I was living 24 00:01:42,230 --> 00:01:39,060 in a suburb of Northern New Jersey 25 00:01:44,810 --> 00:01:42,240 had to be 19 or 20 years old at the time 26 00:01:47,330 --> 00:01:44,820 it was a rainy evening and I was driving 27 00:01:48,950 --> 00:01:47,340 West towards my home with one of my 28 00:01:50,389 --> 00:01:48,960 close friends in the passenger seat 29 00:01:53,210 --> 00:01:50,399 beside me 30 00:01:55,609 --> 00:01:53,220 we drove up a long drawn out Hill and as 31 00:01:58,069 --> 00:01:55,619 we arrived at the peak I noticed a 32 00:02:00,170 --> 00:01:58,079 bright yet strangely reserved pair of 33 00:02:03,289 --> 00:02:00,180 lights not too far off in the distance 34 00:02:06,289 --> 00:02:03,299 straight ahead of us I say reserved 35 00:02:08,990 --> 00:02:06,299 because to me they seemed bright but 36 00:02:11,510 --> 00:02:09,000 less radiant like sunlight and more 37 00:02:13,790 --> 00:02:11,520 softly glowing like the Moon 38 00:02:16,610 --> 00:02:13,800 this particular Road stretched for 39 00:02:19,070 --> 00:02:16,620 several miles between two towns and was 40 00:02:20,630 --> 00:02:19,080 flanked by low swampy grasslands on 41 00:02:22,670 --> 00:02:20,640 either side of the road 42 00:02:24,530 --> 00:02:22,680 the lights were side by side and 43 00:02:26,630 --> 00:02:24,540 resembled the headlights of a vehicle 44 00:02:28,910 --> 00:02:26,640 except that they were not on the road 45 00:02:31,729 --> 00:02:28,920 but rather they were slightly above it 46 00:02:33,770 --> 00:02:31,739 it did not appear to be moving 47 00:02:35,930 --> 00:02:33,780 my friend later estimated that the 48 00:02:37,850 --> 00:02:35,940 lights were approximately 25 feet 49 00:02:40,670 --> 00:02:37,860 straight above the pavement 50 00:02:42,290 --> 00:02:40,680 it seemed peculiar to me so I brought it 51 00:02:44,449 --> 00:02:42,300 to my friend's attention 52 00:02:45,650 --> 00:02:44,459 he acknowledged that he was already 53 00:02:47,390 --> 00:02:45,660 aware of it 54 00:02:49,250 --> 00:02:47,400 there were no cell phones at the time 55 00:02:52,130 --> 00:02:49,260 and we did not have a camera with us 56 00:02:54,170 --> 00:02:52,140 however my friend happened to be 57 00:02:56,570 --> 00:02:54,180 carrying a small tape recorder with a 58 00:02:59,150 --> 00:02:56,580 cassette tape so he pressed the record 59 00:03:00,650 --> 00:02:59,160 button and began to describe what we 60 00:03:03,350 --> 00:03:00,660 were seeing 61 00:03:05,570 --> 00:03:03,360 as we approached the bizarre lights it 62 00:03:08,390 --> 00:03:05,580 became more and more apparent that this 63 00:03:10,250 --> 00:03:08,400 was not an airplane or a helicopter and 64 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:10,260 there was no civilian drone technology 65 00:03:13,790 --> 00:03:11,760 at the time 66 00:03:15,949 --> 00:03:13,800 we confirmed that the lights were 67 00:03:18,290 --> 00:03:15,959 stationary as they remained in the same 68 00:03:20,750 --> 00:03:18,300 position yet appeared to increase in 69 00:03:22,670 --> 00:03:20,760 size as we got closer to them 70 00:03:25,369 --> 00:03:22,680 just as we were about to drive 71 00:03:27,710 --> 00:03:25,379 underneath them one of the lights lifted 72 00:03:30,410 --> 00:03:27,720 quickly while remaining equidistant from 73 00:03:32,509 --> 00:03:30,420 the other and the two which now appeared 74 00:03:35,089 --> 00:03:32,519 to be part of a single object that 75 00:03:37,790 --> 00:03:35,099 neither of us could make out shot off to 76 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:37,800 the north and disappeared instantly in 77 00:03:42,589 --> 00:03:41,760 the snap of a finger poof gone just like 78 00:03:44,809 --> 00:03:42,599 that 79 00:03:47,030 --> 00:03:44,819 although we were unable to capture any 80 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:47,040 photos an audio recording of our 81 00:03:51,710 --> 00:03:49,440 emotional response to the event is 82 00:03:53,990 --> 00:03:51,720 evidence that the two of us witnessed 83 00:03:57,649 --> 00:03:54,000 something shocking enough to cause us 84 00:04:00,289 --> 00:03:57,659 both to yell out holy in our shared 85 00:04:02,449 --> 00:04:00,299 state of astonishment and wonder 86 00:04:04,729 --> 00:04:02,459 I remember that the two of us were 87 00:04:06,110 --> 00:04:04,739 hysterical and tears were streaming down 88 00:04:08,210 --> 00:04:06,120 our faces 89 00:04:09,770 --> 00:04:08,220 to my knowledge this has never happened 90 00:04:12,229 --> 00:04:09,780 to either one of us before while 91 00:04:14,089 --> 00:04:12,239 witnessing an airplane or a helicopter 92 00:04:16,310 --> 00:04:14,099 I would also like to mention that 93 00:04:18,830 --> 00:04:16,320 whatever this thing was it was 94 00:04:20,810 --> 00:04:18,840 completely silent 95 00:04:23,150 --> 00:04:20,820 my friend wrote The Following in his 96 00:04:25,070 --> 00:04:23,160 diary entry on this day 97 00:04:27,610 --> 00:04:25,080 when we were in the car we were 98 00:04:31,010 --> 00:04:27,620 contending with driving sounds engine 99 00:04:33,170 --> 00:04:31,020 tires on road and the rain adds quite a 100 00:04:34,129 --> 00:04:33,180 bit to clatter and white noises it all 101 00:04:36,590 --> 00:04:34,139 up 102 00:04:39,230 --> 00:04:36,600 however there is no question we were 103 00:04:41,629 --> 00:04:39,240 very close to the source of light and at 104 00:04:44,570 --> 00:04:41,639 no point had I even considered that I 105 00:04:47,030 --> 00:04:44,580 didn't hear anything usual or unusual 106 00:04:49,310 --> 00:04:47,040 I can't buy into a scenario where we 107 00:04:52,850 --> 00:04:49,320 transect a small engine plane's flight 108 00:04:55,129 --> 00:04:52,860 path or big private jet it was 109 00:04:57,409 --> 00:04:55,139 definitely not a helicopter as they are 110 00:04:59,450 --> 00:04:57,419 a lot louder than planes and they 111 00:05:02,749 --> 00:04:59,460 disturb everything around with turbulent 112 00:05:04,909 --> 00:05:02,759 rotors end of diary entry 113 00:05:07,370 --> 00:05:04,919 when this occurred we were about a mile 114 00:05:08,990 --> 00:05:07,380 or so away from my apartment so we 115 00:05:10,870 --> 00:05:09,000 continued to Rave about our experience 116 00:05:13,249 --> 00:05:10,880 with the tape recorder still running 117 00:05:16,129 --> 00:05:13,259 there were other vehicles on the road as 118 00:05:17,749 --> 00:05:16,139 well did anybody else see this 119 00:05:19,790 --> 00:05:17,759 this is where and when the high 120 00:05:22,310 --> 00:05:19,800 strangeness really peaked 121 00:05:24,830 --> 00:05:22,320 as we approached our destination my 122 00:05:27,350 --> 00:05:24,840 friend shut off the tape recorder and we 123 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:27,360 drove a short distance and tranced in 124 00:05:31,490 --> 00:05:29,039 complete silence 125 00:05:34,430 --> 00:05:31,500 suddenly I observed one of the most odd 126 00:05:37,129 --> 00:05:34,440 things that I had ever seen in my life 127 00:05:39,409 --> 00:05:37,139 casually walking down the sidewalk just 128 00:05:41,810 --> 00:05:39,419 around the corner from my home was what 129 00:05:42,950 --> 00:05:41,820 appeared to be a stereotypical gray 130 00:05:46,189 --> 00:05:42,960 alien 131 00:05:49,189 --> 00:05:46,199 slender and lanky with long thin wiry 132 00:05:51,950 --> 00:05:49,199 arms legs and fingers and a large 133 00:05:54,110 --> 00:05:51,960 bulbous head with big dark eyes I 134 00:05:56,570 --> 00:05:54,120 couldn't believe what I was looking at 135 00:05:58,490 --> 00:05:56,580 is anybody else seeing this 136 00:06:00,469 --> 00:05:58,500 there were other cars on the road here 137 00:06:02,330 --> 00:06:00,479 as well and people coming and going 138 00:06:04,430 --> 00:06:02,340 relatively nearby 139 00:06:07,070 --> 00:06:04,440 before I could say anything to my friend 140 00:06:10,550 --> 00:06:07,080 he uttered with a bewildered tone to his 141 00:06:13,189 --> 00:06:10,560 voice did you see that I said something 142 00:06:15,469 --> 00:06:13,199 to the effect of the thing with the big 143 00:06:17,629 --> 00:06:15,479 head walking down the sidewalk he 144 00:06:20,450 --> 00:06:17,639 nervously responded Yes 145 00:06:22,790 --> 00:06:20,460 we both fell silent again and drove the 146 00:06:24,170 --> 00:06:22,800 rest of the way to my place where we 147 00:06:26,390 --> 00:06:24,180 spent the remainder of the evening 148 00:06:27,469 --> 00:06:26,400 calmly discussing all that had happened 149 00:06:30,110 --> 00:06:27,479 to us 150 00:06:31,909 --> 00:06:30,120 for some odd reason my friend is unable 151 00:06:34,249 --> 00:06:31,919 to recall this last part of the 152 00:06:36,590 --> 00:06:34,259 experience the appearance of the alien 153 00:06:38,510 --> 00:06:36,600 being on the sidewalk although he 154 00:06:40,850 --> 00:06:38,520 recalls everything else with as much 155 00:06:42,950 --> 00:06:40,860 clarity as I do and with nearly 156 00:06:45,950 --> 00:06:42,960 identical descriptions of the phenomena 157 00:06:47,870 --> 00:06:45,960 as those of my own I have had several 158 00:06:50,210 --> 00:06:47,880 other experiences with unidentified 159 00:06:51,230 --> 00:06:50,220 phenomena and high strangeness following 160 00:06:53,689 --> 00:06:51,240 this event 161 00:06:55,550 --> 00:06:53,699 including one later that same year 162 00:06:58,129 --> 00:06:55,560 but I would like to leave it at this for 163 00:07:00,529 --> 00:06:58,139 now so that I may share some thoughts as 164 00:07:02,689 --> 00:07:00,539 to what some of the possibilities are in 165 00:07:04,969 --> 00:07:02,699 regard to what this phenomena could 166 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:04,979 potentially be all of course are 167 00:07:10,550 --> 00:07:07,440 entirely speculative it could be 168 00:07:13,010 --> 00:07:10,560 extraterrestrial perhaps even as some 169 00:07:16,070 --> 00:07:13,020 speculate interdimensional I have 170 00:07:18,830 --> 00:07:16,080 experienced peculiar geometric craft and 171 00:07:20,689 --> 00:07:18,840 extremely vivid dreams I have woken up 172 00:07:22,730 --> 00:07:20,699 from lucid dreams with the thought that 173 00:07:25,490 --> 00:07:22,740 these are some sort of reality bending 174 00:07:27,409 --> 00:07:25,500 crafts from liminal worlds that seem to 175 00:07:28,129 --> 00:07:27,419 have a being or consciousness of Their 176 00:07:31,070 --> 00:07:28,139 Own 177 00:07:33,469 --> 00:07:31,080 perhaps biological perhaps artificial 178 00:07:35,089 --> 00:07:33,479 intelligence perhaps some sort of a 179 00:07:37,249 --> 00:07:35,099 hybrid of the two 180 00:07:39,469 --> 00:07:37,259 their very presence seems to warp 181 00:07:42,129 --> 00:07:39,479 reality or Consciousness to the extent 182 00:07:44,870 --> 00:07:42,139 that everyday Sensations and perceptions 183 00:07:47,809 --> 00:07:44,880 dreams out of body States Visions 184 00:07:50,510 --> 00:07:47,819 hallucinations psychedelic spaces and 185 00:07:52,990 --> 00:07:50,520 Myriad of other states of awareness all 186 00:07:56,270 --> 00:07:53,000 blend together in various ways into 187 00:07:57,890 --> 00:07:56,280 incomprehensible hyperspaces that seem 188 00:08:00,110 --> 00:07:57,900 to profoundly transform The Human 189 00:08:02,510 --> 00:08:00,120 Experience of sensation and perception 190 00:08:04,790 --> 00:08:02,520 and of space and time into something 191 00:08:06,650 --> 00:08:04,800 that transcends the very essence of The 192 00:08:09,409 --> 00:08:06,660 Human Experience itself 193 00:08:11,990 --> 00:08:09,419 Perhaps it is human or non-human Time 194 00:08:14,710 --> 00:08:12,000 Travelers Perhaps it is highly Advanced 195 00:08:17,570 --> 00:08:14,720 human technology from the past or future 196 00:08:20,749 --> 00:08:17,580 Perhaps it is human-generated artificial 197 00:08:23,689 --> 00:08:20,759 intelligence Perhaps it is a biological 198 00:08:25,909 --> 00:08:23,699 creature or creatures that Coexist on 199 00:08:29,570 --> 00:08:25,919 our planet that are technologically more 200 00:08:32,089 --> 00:08:29,580 advanced than we are Perhaps it is from 201 00:08:34,969 --> 00:08:32,099 the depths of our deserts Perhaps it is 202 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:34,979 from the depths of our oceans Perhaps it 203 00:08:39,889 --> 00:08:37,200 is from the depths of our jungles 204 00:08:42,649 --> 00:08:39,899 have you seen this craft represented in 205 00:08:44,630 --> 00:08:42,659 the paintings of the late Pablo amaringo 206 00:08:46,550 --> 00:08:44,640 a shapeebo shaman turned artist 207 00:08:48,530 --> 00:08:46,560 following a psychic attack from another 208 00:08:50,990 --> 00:08:48,540 Shaman that nearly killed him 209 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:51,000 maybe the phenomenon is holographic 210 00:08:55,910 --> 00:08:52,800 maybe the phenomenon is the 211 00:08:58,490 --> 00:08:55,920 hallucination of a mass psychosis maybe 212 00:08:59,690 --> 00:08:58,500 the phenomenon is an artifact of mass 213 00:09:02,329 --> 00:08:59,700 hypnosis 214 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:02,339 maybe the phenomenon is a mind virus 215 00:09:06,889 --> 00:09:05,040 maybe the phenomenon is a hoax 216 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:06,899 maybe the phenomena 217 00:09:13,130 --> 00:09:10,320 is a tulpa or thought formation created 218 00:09:15,829 --> 00:09:13,140 consciously or or subconsciously by 219 00:09:18,170 --> 00:09:15,839 individuals or collectively that takes 220 00:09:20,329 --> 00:09:18,180 on a life of its own apart from its 221 00:09:22,670 --> 00:09:20,339 generator or generators 222 00:09:25,130 --> 00:09:22,680 maybe the phenomena are what many 223 00:09:27,829 --> 00:09:25,140 Through the Ages have commonly been 224 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:27,839 referred to as Angels demons or fairies 225 00:09:33,230 --> 00:09:30,480 and elves are they some sort of probes 226 00:09:35,509 --> 00:09:33,240 of observing life on our planet are 227 00:09:38,150 --> 00:09:35,519 humans some sort of genetic experiment 228 00:09:39,170 --> 00:09:38,160 could the so-called Zoo hypothesis be 229 00:09:41,269 --> 00:09:39,180 correct 230 00:09:43,730 --> 00:09:41,279 are they somehow associated with death 231 00:09:45,410 --> 00:09:43,740 in the after death State anyone's guess 232 00:09:47,630 --> 00:09:45,420 is as good as mine 233 00:09:49,670 --> 00:09:47,640 the only thing I know for sure is that 234 00:09:51,829 --> 00:09:49,680 something out of the ordinary and 235 00:09:55,250 --> 00:09:51,839 perhaps out of this world happened to my 236 00:09:57,710 --> 00:09:55,260 friend and I in 1993 followed by other 237 00:10:00,050 --> 00:09:57,720 events later that same year and in the 238 00:10:02,930 --> 00:10:00,060 summer of 1996. 239 00:10:05,090 --> 00:10:02,940 memory changes over time and although it 240 00:10:06,710 --> 00:10:05,100 is within the range of possibility that 241 00:10:10,250 --> 00:10:06,720 the explanation for the experience 242 00:10:12,050 --> 00:10:10,260 described above is entirely prosaic I 243 00:10:14,690 --> 00:10:12,060 cannot shake this deeply rooted feeling 244 00:10:16,610 --> 00:10:14,700 that this is not the case Ryan thank you 245 00:10:19,009 --> 00:10:16,620 again for all of the great work that you 246 00:10:20,750 --> 00:10:19,019 do and thank you to all of those who 247 00:10:22,610 --> 00:10:20,760 have shared their stories as well as 248 00:10:25,370 --> 00:10:22,620 those who have taken the time to listen 249 00:10:27,590 --> 00:10:25,380 and have approached this topic keeping 250 00:10:30,110 --> 00:10:27,600 the balance of an open mind with a 251 00:10:32,449 --> 00:10:30,120 healthy dose of skepticism along with a 252 00:10:34,490 --> 00:10:32,459 pinch of imagination and we must 253 00:10:37,670 --> 00:10:34,500 remember the words of the late great 254 00:10:38,750 --> 00:10:37,680 David Bowie there's a star man waiting 255 00:10:41,389 --> 00:10:38,760 in the sky 256 00:10:46,110 --> 00:10:41,399 he'd like to come and meet us but he 257 00:10:51,710 --> 00:10:49,430 [Music] 258 00:10:55,430 --> 00:10:51,720 hi Ryan and the Subway on the skies 259 00:10:58,850 --> 00:10:55,440 listeners my name's Hilton I live in 260 00:11:00,530 --> 00:10:58,860 Newcastle upon Tyne in the UK and 261 00:11:02,630 --> 00:11:00,540 of the Samuel culture podcast and 262 00:11:05,150 --> 00:11:02,640 hearing the other with this accounts I 263 00:11:07,910 --> 00:11:05,160 thought I'd leave my own with you 264 00:11:10,370 --> 00:11:07,920 this event happened in about October 265 00:11:12,470 --> 00:11:10,380 2019 266 00:11:14,269 --> 00:11:12,480 before kind of the world left down for 267 00:11:17,269 --> 00:11:14,279 covered 268 00:11:19,310 --> 00:11:17,279 um colleague and myself went out for 269 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:19,320 well went out for a smoke break I wanted 270 00:11:22,310 --> 00:11:20,880 to go stretch my legs 271 00:11:25,970 --> 00:11:22,320 and we were just standing in front of my 272 00:11:28,190 --> 00:11:25,980 building and it sort of 273 00:11:29,870 --> 00:11:28,200 at the foot of the town where so the 274 00:11:32,090 --> 00:11:29,880 river flows past 275 00:11:34,670 --> 00:11:32,100 and while we're having a conversation my 276 00:11:36,410 --> 00:11:34,680 colleague basically just stopped talking 277 00:11:38,930 --> 00:11:36,420 to me with sentence 278 00:11:40,150 --> 00:11:38,940 I was looking sort of past my head up 279 00:11:42,590 --> 00:11:40,160 the road 280 00:11:45,610 --> 00:11:42,600 at a patch of sky 281 00:11:46,930 --> 00:11:45,620 above actual Town Center itself 282 00:11:49,370 --> 00:11:46,940 [Music] 283 00:11:50,870 --> 00:11:49,380 eventually sort of like 284 00:11:53,990 --> 00:11:50,880 pointed to where he was kind of looking 285 00:11:56,449 --> 00:11:54,000 and initially I couldn't see a thing 286 00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:56,459 it just looked like there's a patch of 287 00:12:00,110 --> 00:11:58,560 blue sky with sort of cloud kind of 288 00:12:02,090 --> 00:12:00,120 moving through 289 00:12:04,790 --> 00:12:02,100 and eventually I hope 290 00:12:07,310 --> 00:12:04,800 caught on to what it was and could see 291 00:12:09,230 --> 00:12:07,320 it it was 292 00:12:11,090 --> 00:12:09,240 something I've never seen before 293 00:12:13,310 --> 00:12:11,100 it looked 294 00:12:15,410 --> 00:12:13,320 sorry about the shape 295 00:12:19,930 --> 00:12:15,420 of a matchbox 296 00:12:23,030 --> 00:12:19,940 it was very Square flattened 297 00:12:25,730 --> 00:12:23,040 but its size it appeared to be like 298 00:12:28,610 --> 00:12:25,740 quite big like massive I'd say 299 00:12:29,990 --> 00:12:28,620 size of like a football pitch 300 00:12:31,850 --> 00:12:30,000 and 301 00:12:33,230 --> 00:12:31,860 the height above the ground I'd say 302 00:12:36,050 --> 00:12:33,240 maybe about 303 00:12:39,350 --> 00:12:36,060 to 300 feet and it was just motionless 304 00:12:42,110 --> 00:12:39,360 it was positioned sort of one end down 305 00:12:43,970 --> 00:12:42,120 by about maybe 15 degrees 306 00:12:47,110 --> 00:12:43,980 and 307 00:12:49,550 --> 00:12:47,120 yeah it just seemed to be actively 308 00:12:51,050 --> 00:12:49,560 camouflaging against the backdrop which 309 00:12:54,590 --> 00:12:51,060 of the clouds 310 00:12:56,750 --> 00:12:54,600 and you could literally only make it out 311 00:12:59,210 --> 00:12:56,760 as the clouds sort of move past it there 312 00:13:00,530 --> 00:12:59,220 was a fraction of time where you could 313 00:13:01,550 --> 00:13:00,540 see the outline of whatever this thing 314 00:13:06,530 --> 00:13:01,560 was 315 00:13:09,170 --> 00:13:06,540 and 316 00:13:09,949 --> 00:13:09,180 no sound except for the sound of the 317 00:13:11,690 --> 00:13:09,959 traffic 318 00:13:12,590 --> 00:13:11,700 and then normal sounds from like a busy 319 00:13:14,269 --> 00:13:12,600 city 320 00:13:17,150 --> 00:13:14,279 um okay there was no 321 00:13:18,769 --> 00:13:17,160 propulsion or anything you could hear 322 00:13:21,769 --> 00:13:18,779 and it was just a 323 00:13:24,170 --> 00:13:21,779 and we both stared at it and like 324 00:13:25,370 --> 00:13:24,180 complete all for about maybe five 325 00:13:27,410 --> 00:13:25,380 minutes 326 00:13:28,970 --> 00:13:27,420 trying to get our heads around what we 327 00:13:30,170 --> 00:13:28,980 saw and then decided to go back in the 328 00:13:33,050 --> 00:13:30,180 office 329 00:13:34,550 --> 00:13:33,060 and on the way up in the lift we at that 330 00:13:37,670 --> 00:13:34,560 point decided not to really mention this 331 00:13:39,470 --> 00:13:37,680 to anyone because we would say so like 332 00:13:41,569 --> 00:13:39,480 we're smoking something else 333 00:13:43,030 --> 00:13:41,579 and I've literally maybe told two other 334 00:13:46,490 --> 00:13:43,040 people 335 00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:46,500 uh and it's yeah it's it's kind of 336 00:13:50,569 --> 00:13:48,480 really blown my mind I don't know its 337 00:13:52,490 --> 00:13:50,579 origin I don't know if it's from this 338 00:13:53,810 --> 00:13:52,500 Earth or from somewhere else all I know 339 00:13:55,970 --> 00:13:53,820 is that 340 00:13:56,930 --> 00:13:55,980 the technology that was used by this 341 00:13:59,030 --> 00:13:56,940 device 342 00:14:01,250 --> 00:13:59,040 or craft is unlike anything I've ever 343 00:14:03,190 --> 00:14:01,260 seen before 344 00:14:05,509 --> 00:14:03,200 um and it's kind of blown my mind 345 00:14:07,970 --> 00:14:05,519 and I thought I'd basically share this 346 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:07,980 with uh with everyone else 347 00:14:12,650 --> 00:14:10,860 um that is the Oni 348 00:14:15,050 --> 00:14:12,660 sort of occasion in the Northeast that 349 00:14:16,490 --> 00:14:15,060 I've seen something like this 350 00:14:19,370 --> 00:14:16,500 yeah I was really hoping I was going to 351 00:14:21,530 --> 00:14:19,380 see more of them we'll see it again but 352 00:14:22,490 --> 00:14:21,540 judging by a horror like how hard it was 353 00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:22,500 despite 354 00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:24,240 um it's unlikely I'd see another one 355 00:14:32,670 --> 00:14:25,680 like this again 356 00:14:37,009 --> 00:14:34,190 [Music] 357 00:14:39,290 --> 00:14:37,019 hi my name's Steve I'm from the 358 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:39,300 northwest of England 359 00:14:45,290 --> 00:14:41,760 I've been working as an Entertainer for 360 00:14:47,810 --> 00:14:45,300 the last 25 26 years so constantly on 361 00:14:50,329 --> 00:14:47,820 the motorways late at night 362 00:14:52,189 --> 00:14:50,339 I've never really seen anything really 363 00:14:54,530 --> 00:14:52,199 I'm always looking because I do enjoy 364 00:14:57,769 --> 00:14:54,540 that kind of thing I've been into the 365 00:15:00,470 --> 00:14:57,779 UFO subject since I was a small boy 366 00:15:02,569 --> 00:15:00,480 so I've always been intrigued by that 367 00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:02,579 and one particular night this was about 368 00:15:08,509 --> 00:15:06,000 roughly I'd say about 12 maybe 13 years 369 00:15:10,009 --> 00:15:08,519 ago around art and time around the time 370 00:15:13,490 --> 00:15:10,019 it is now 371 00:15:17,689 --> 00:15:13,500 um I was with my wife at the time we 372 00:15:21,829 --> 00:15:17,699 were driving from a place of work down 373 00:15:25,129 --> 00:15:21,839 the m6 and it was about 11 10 p.m Around 374 00:15:26,930 --> 00:15:25,139 The Stoke Stafford area on the m6 it was 375 00:15:30,949 --> 00:15:26,940 quite it was clear 376 00:15:32,569 --> 00:15:30,959 and um this is one incident I never told 377 00:15:33,889 --> 00:15:32,579 anybody the next incident I'm gonna tell 378 00:15:36,050 --> 00:15:33,899 you happened the following night on the 379 00:15:38,329 --> 00:15:36,060 same stretch abroad but this is incident 380 00:15:40,129 --> 00:15:38,339 I never told anybody because it was it 381 00:15:42,470 --> 00:15:40,139 was just too bizarre 382 00:15:44,269 --> 00:15:42,480 the both of us are but this was just it 383 00:15:46,370 --> 00:15:44,279 didn't come in under the same reference 384 00:15:47,930 --> 00:15:46,380 points and framework as you know 385 00:15:51,650 --> 00:15:47,940 conventional UFOs 386 00:15:56,509 --> 00:15:51,660 and in the sky we could see a triangular 387 00:15:58,790 --> 00:15:56,519 box like if you can imagine a gigantic 388 00:16:01,310 --> 00:15:58,800 um there was those flat white MP3 389 00:16:02,870 --> 00:16:01,320 players that we used to have you know a 390 00:16:04,910 --> 00:16:02,880 few years ago before everything changed 391 00:16:06,170 --> 00:16:04,920 and went into phones forget the name of 392 00:16:08,930 --> 00:16:06,180 them now but you know he's got the dial 393 00:16:13,610 --> 00:16:08,940 on the front imagine like a big 394 00:16:16,310 --> 00:16:13,620 rectangular uh craft with no wings 395 00:16:20,090 --> 00:16:16,320 and on the back on the very back of it 396 00:16:22,009 --> 00:16:20,100 there was a pole uh just like uh just a 397 00:16:25,610 --> 00:16:22,019 big pole of sort of a mast and on top of 398 00:16:27,970 --> 00:16:25,620 that Mast was a big white glowing orb at 399 00:16:32,050 --> 00:16:27,980 the back and this thing was shooting 400 00:16:34,490 --> 00:16:32,060 from east to west uh 401 00:16:37,009 --> 00:16:34,500 phenomenal speed like somebody was just 402 00:16:39,050 --> 00:16:37,019 joyriding in the sky 403 00:16:41,449 --> 00:16:39,060 and we were like Jesus look at this and 404 00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:41,459 and then for and then eventually we 405 00:16:47,110 --> 00:16:43,680 obviously we sort of got under it and 406 00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:49,069 screeching screaming and screaming it 407 00:16:53,449 --> 00:16:51,120 across the the sky 408 00:16:54,850 --> 00:16:53,459 good at least 50 to 100 miles into 409 00:16:58,069 --> 00:16:54,860 seconds 410 00:17:01,610 --> 00:16:58,079 straight across and Back Again 411 00:17:03,110 --> 00:17:01,620 it was strange it was a bizarre incident 412 00:17:05,390 --> 00:17:03,120 which um 413 00:17:07,250 --> 00:17:05,400 I just disregarded because of you know 414 00:17:10,549 --> 00:17:07,260 it's no wings right what are you gonna 415 00:17:12,470 --> 00:17:10,559 tell people you saw a flying box with a 416 00:17:13,850 --> 00:17:12,480 glowing knob on the back they already 417 00:17:19,189 --> 00:17:13,860 think I'm mad 418 00:17:23,150 --> 00:17:19,199 so uh anyway the next night were on very 419 00:17:25,130 --> 00:17:23,160 similar uh a stretch of motor on the way 420 00:17:28,189 --> 00:17:25,140 but it's almost the same area Stoke 421 00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:28,199 Stafford almost around the same time 422 00:17:34,909 --> 00:17:32,640 so now uh my wife and I might were 423 00:17:37,010 --> 00:17:34,919 looking in the sky without you remember 424 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:37,020 that I think we saw last night like yep 425 00:17:44,510 --> 00:17:40,320 yep yep yep and and then to the left of 426 00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:44,520 us uh about uh a few a few hundred yards 427 00:17:49,130 --> 00:17:47,039 down on the left of a solve above above 428 00:17:54,049 --> 00:17:49,140 the tree line on the out shoulder 429 00:18:00,049 --> 00:17:54,059 came a um black triangular 430 00:18:04,130 --> 00:18:00,059 craft with a light under each Apex of it 431 00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:04,140 and and it was going so slow that it was 432 00:18:09,770 --> 00:18:06,000 looked like it was just floating 433 00:18:12,169 --> 00:18:09,780 drifting and it didn't make a sound not 434 00:18:13,789 --> 00:18:12,179 a single sound and any anything that was 435 00:18:15,710 --> 00:18:13,799 that was probably at that speed what 436 00:18:17,570 --> 00:18:15,720 about to have had a downdraft because it 437 00:18:21,470 --> 00:18:17,580 would have just dropped out the sky 438 00:18:23,330 --> 00:18:21,480 and and everything went deadly quiet the 439 00:18:26,450 --> 00:18:23,340 car was quiet 440 00:18:28,669 --> 00:18:26,460 the the the air uh that was rushing 441 00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:28,679 through the car that went quiet 442 00:18:34,970 --> 00:18:31,039 and we just 443 00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:34,980 watched it everything slowed down and we 444 00:18:39,710 --> 00:18:36,960 it came over the car it was literally he 445 00:18:42,110 --> 00:18:39,720 could have hit it with a you know a 446 00:18:43,970 --> 00:18:42,120 couple you know it was 50 feet away from 447 00:18:46,370 --> 00:18:43,980 the car but above it and it just drifted 448 00:18:49,909 --> 00:18:46,380 over it was gunmetal black 449 00:18:52,909 --> 00:18:49,919 and it it it was just 450 00:18:53,930 --> 00:18:52,919 drifted silently right across the 451 00:18:56,210 --> 00:18:53,940 motorway 452 00:18:57,950 --> 00:18:56,220 a cross over to the fields to the east 453 00:19:00,950 --> 00:18:57,960 side so it went from west to east as 454 00:19:02,810 --> 00:19:00,960 we're traveling towards Liverpool area 455 00:19:04,630 --> 00:19:02,820 well sort of that area on the m6 we're 456 00:19:09,230 --> 00:19:04,640 going that way we're going northbound 457 00:19:12,710 --> 00:19:09,240 and and it went straight across and just 458 00:19:15,230 --> 00:19:12,720 slowly drifted across the field didn't 459 00:19:18,770 --> 00:19:15,240 make a sound I had no Jets no propulsion 460 00:19:21,350 --> 00:19:18,780 no nothing just a black triangle 461 00:19:22,610 --> 00:19:21,360 and you could see it kind of like it 462 00:19:25,130 --> 00:19:22,620 didn't have any markings or anything 463 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:25,140 like that and it was you could see it 464 00:19:30,110 --> 00:19:27,840 was a solid object and it was kind of 465 00:19:31,490 --> 00:19:30,120 bolted together kind of thing and you 466 00:19:33,890 --> 00:19:31,500 didn't see any bolts or anything else in 467 00:19:37,370 --> 00:19:33,900 but you could see that it was it had 468 00:19:39,230 --> 00:19:37,380 been made it weren't like cast I mean 469 00:19:40,490 --> 00:19:39,240 you know your normal UFOs there's no 470 00:19:42,590 --> 00:19:40,500 seams is there and all that kind of 471 00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:42,600 stuff this one looked like it had been 472 00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:44,160 made you know because I don't know what 473 00:19:49,010 --> 00:19:47,039 I mean by that really take what you from 474 00:19:50,750 --> 00:19:49,020 that what you will but 475 00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:50,760 um and it and it just disappeared and 476 00:19:55,610 --> 00:19:53,280 went over to the um 477 00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:55,620 East so it would have gone sort of a 478 00:20:01,730 --> 00:19:59,039 Stafford area over that way and I looked 479 00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:01,740 at my wife and said 480 00:20:07,250 --> 00:20:04,380 are you seeing this and she said yep yep 481 00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:07,260 I can see it I can see it and and then 482 00:20:11,930 --> 00:20:09,600 that was it it was done it was over and 483 00:20:13,669 --> 00:20:11,940 um so we we talked about it and we split 484 00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:13,679 up a few years later but maybe about 485 00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:15,360 nine ten years later we splittle but 486 00:20:18,830 --> 00:20:16,799 then every occasion we remain friends 487 00:20:22,430 --> 00:20:18,840 and every now and then I would message 488 00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:22,440 and say do you remember these incidents 489 00:20:26,150 --> 00:20:24,720 and she's like yep and clearly clearly 490 00:20:27,650 --> 00:20:26,160 mentioned it so 491 00:20:30,529 --> 00:20:27,660 anyway 492 00:20:32,690 --> 00:20:30,539 about three months later it's winter 493 00:20:34,010 --> 00:20:32,700 time so these are three three very very 494 00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:34,020 different 495 00:20:38,570 --> 00:20:36,480 um Craft UFO sightings and I've never 496 00:20:40,490 --> 00:20:38,580 had any in my life and I got three of 497 00:20:44,930 --> 00:20:40,500 them within three months and the third 498 00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:44,940 one I was driving back from Leeds area 499 00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:48,480 um on the m62 again going home uh that 500 00:20:54,049 --> 00:20:50,460 way so I think he's he's always looking 501 00:20:55,730 --> 00:20:54,059 to remember and I got to the I got past 502 00:20:57,049 --> 00:20:55,740 the sort of the big hill bit where you 503 00:20:58,909 --> 00:20:57,059 go over it's like the house Motorway in 504 00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:58,919 England and all that and then I'm 505 00:21:01,789 --> 00:21:00,240 dropping down and I've got to really 506 00:21:03,730 --> 00:21:01,799 clear bit I'm looking to my right and 507 00:21:07,070 --> 00:21:03,740 you can look over I think it's Halifax 508 00:21:08,330 --> 00:21:07,080 and he can see into Halifax you can see 509 00:21:09,470 --> 00:21:08,340 all the lights blinking and you can see 510 00:21:11,930 --> 00:21:09,480 everything clearly you can see Church 511 00:21:13,610 --> 00:21:11,940 Steeples you can see everything and 512 00:21:15,890 --> 00:21:13,620 understand what caught my attention 513 00:21:19,850 --> 00:21:15,900 first of all was the Moon 514 00:21:22,610 --> 00:21:19,860 the moon was absolutely beautiful it was 515 00:21:24,049 --> 00:21:22,620 massive you could make out all the you 516 00:21:25,370 --> 00:21:24,059 know the the patterns on it and all the 517 00:21:27,710 --> 00:21:25,380 face of it and all that kind of it was a 518 00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:27,720 beautiful color sort of of a sort of a 519 00:21:33,409 --> 00:21:30,720 milkish uh orangey sock glow to it and 520 00:21:37,370 --> 00:21:33,419 then and then just underneath it's all 521 00:21:41,090 --> 00:21:37,380 halfway between the Horizon uh and the 522 00:21:43,970 --> 00:21:41,100 moon was another moon like it it was 523 00:21:46,549 --> 00:21:43,980 just the same shape the same color 524 00:21:49,070 --> 00:21:46,559 um it was and it was massive it was just 525 00:21:51,529 --> 00:21:49,080 hung there and I'm now I'm thinking what 526 00:21:54,190 --> 00:21:51,539 what the bloody hell is this and then 527 00:21:58,669 --> 00:21:54,200 um after about a few seconds it pulsated 528 00:22:00,890 --> 00:21:58,679 it it sort of went and then shrank 529 00:22:03,070 --> 00:22:00,900 10 times less it's nice so he shranked 530 00:22:07,010 --> 00:22:03,080 down to about the size of a basketball 531 00:22:08,930 --> 00:22:07,020 so now it's tiny 532 00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:08,940 and then it and it just and then it just 533 00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:11,280 lowered itself 534 00:22:16,970 --> 00:22:12,960 really sort of 535 00:22:19,850 --> 00:22:16,980 um slowly right over uh the the town of 536 00:22:21,230 --> 00:22:19,860 Halifax kind of over a building maybe it 537 00:22:23,630 --> 00:22:21,240 was a church I'm not really sure but it 538 00:22:26,090 --> 00:22:23,640 was very similar to if you've ever seen 539 00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:26,100 the Dome of the Rock thing 540 00:22:29,450 --> 00:22:28,320 uh the one where we came down and I'll 541 00:22:31,310 --> 00:22:29,460 go over the Dome of the Rock and then 542 00:22:31,970 --> 00:22:31,320 flashed and went off and it got to the 543 00:22:35,330 --> 00:22:31,980 um 544 00:22:37,970 --> 00:22:35,340 the the hanging over the buildings 545 00:22:39,730 --> 00:22:37,980 and then it it it it it flashed again 546 00:22:42,830 --> 00:22:39,740 three times into like 547 00:22:45,049 --> 00:22:42,840 and then shot back to where it was and 548 00:22:46,610 --> 00:22:45,059 then swelled to its original size as 549 00:22:49,310 --> 00:22:46,620 like it was just the most incredible 550 00:22:53,330 --> 00:22:49,320 thing I've ever seen so get this I now 551 00:22:56,090 --> 00:22:53,340 ring my wife who's working at the Royal 552 00:22:57,230 --> 00:22:56,100 exchange theater in Manchester and I see 553 00:22:59,090 --> 00:22:57,240 so it must have been about quarter past 554 00:23:01,330 --> 00:22:59,100 ten at this time and I see she's just 555 00:23:05,210 --> 00:23:01,340 finished a shift so she'll be leaving 556 00:23:06,590 --> 00:23:05,220 and uh and I rang her and I said you're 557 00:23:09,770 --> 00:23:06,600 never gonna believe what I'm looking at 558 00:23:11,630 --> 00:23:09,780 and she said is it like a really big 559 00:23:14,930 --> 00:23:11,640 white ball in the sky and it looks like 560 00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:14,940 the moon and I was like no way it isn't 561 00:23:19,370 --> 00:23:16,320 she was in Manchester at this time and 562 00:23:21,049 --> 00:23:19,380 this was way over uh is sort of over the 563 00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:21,059 Halifax where she'd seen it from 564 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:22,320 Manchester from the Royal exchange 565 00:23:26,330 --> 00:23:24,480 theater I don't know why how or whatever 566 00:23:28,130 --> 00:23:26,340 make of that what you will I don't know 567 00:23:30,110 --> 00:23:28,140 what it is but she saw that 568 00:23:32,270 --> 00:23:30,120 so I rang my friend who lives in the 569 00:23:33,890 --> 00:23:32,280 flats in Leeds and made him go to the 570 00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:33,900 top of his building but he couldn't see 571 00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:36,480 it he couldn't see it but um I hope that 572 00:23:40,190 --> 00:23:37,919 interests you these three three very 573 00:23:41,390 --> 00:23:40,200 bizarre stories and if it's um if you 574 00:23:44,090 --> 00:23:41,400 want to go out if you've ever seen 575 00:23:46,010 --> 00:23:44,100 people of Earth the show people of Earth 576 00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:46,020 which is excellent if nobody's ever seen 577 00:23:50,990 --> 00:23:48,960 it go and see it the ship the mothership 578 00:23:53,529 --> 00:23:51,000 that's hiding behind the Moon 579 00:23:55,970 --> 00:23:53,539 in the show they have a carrier craft 580 00:23:57,890 --> 00:23:55,980 and and the carrier craft that takes 581 00:24:00,770 --> 00:23:57,900 them from them from their ship to the 582 00:24:02,210 --> 00:24:00,780 Earth is exactly the same as what I 583 00:24:03,950 --> 00:24:02,220 first saw that rectangular thing and 584 00:24:05,270 --> 00:24:03,960 that's when I felt confident to tell 585 00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:05,280 people about it because I'm like these 586 00:24:07,789 --> 00:24:06,240 guys know what they're talking about 587 00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:07,799 they've seen something who's wrote this 588 00:24:10,970 --> 00:24:08,820 show 589 00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:10,980 uh anyway I hope you enjoy this story 590 00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:13,200 it's true there's no there or 591 00:24:16,430 --> 00:24:14,700 anything like that that's word for word 592 00:24:19,490 --> 00:24:16,440 exactly what happened and I have a 593 00:24:25,510 --> 00:24:19,500 witness as well I hope you enjoyed that 594 00:24:31,070 --> 00:24:28,970 do you like stories of this strange the 595 00:24:33,529 --> 00:24:31,080 weird and The Unexplained then we want 596 00:24:36,830 --> 00:24:33,539 you to check out Jim Harold's campfire 597 00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:36,840 the concept is pretty simple Jim talks 598 00:24:41,630 --> 00:24:39,360 to regular people about strange stuff 599 00:24:45,049 --> 00:24:41,640 that happens to them and yes that 600 00:24:47,710 --> 00:24:45,059 includes UFOs along with Cryptids ghosts 601 00:24:50,570 --> 00:24:47,720 and head scratchers he doesn't 602 00:24:53,149 --> 00:24:50,580 exaggerate or play a lot of spooky music 603 00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:53,159 kinda like I'm doing right now the 604 00:24:59,090 --> 00:24:56,159 stories speak for themselves once like a 605 00:25:01,909 --> 00:24:59,100 ghost story involving serial killer Ted 606 00:25:05,270 --> 00:25:01,919 Bundy or the young man who encountered 607 00:25:07,610 --> 00:25:05,280 an eight-legged demon then there's the 608 00:25:10,370 --> 00:25:07,620 story of an alien abduction by what 609 00:25:13,370 --> 00:25:10,380 could be considered a reptilian now not 610 00:25:15,649 --> 00:25:13,380 all the stories are horrifying some are 611 00:25:18,289 --> 00:25:15,659 actually pretty heartwarming like a 612 00:25:20,049 --> 00:25:18,299 visit from a past loved one or a 613 00:25:23,330 --> 00:25:20,059 peaceful near-death experience 614 00:25:26,269 --> 00:25:23,340 regardless these are true and fast 615 00:25:28,029 --> 00:25:26,279 fascinating stories told by ordinary 616 00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:28,039 people who've had extraordinary 617 00:25:35,330 --> 00:25:31,679 experiences tune in to Jim Harold's 618 00:25:37,490 --> 00:25:35,340 campfire on Apple podcasts Spotify or 619 00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:37,500 wherever you listen to somewhere in the 620 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,190 [Music] 621 00:25:53,269 --> 00:25:49,310 all right so I'm gonna tell my UFO story 622 00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:53,279 that I have only told a very few people 623 00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:55,440 about because the response I usually get 624 00:26:00,409 --> 00:25:58,799 from it's usually either negative or 625 00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:00,419 they just people just think I'm crazy 626 00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:03,440 anyway let me set the stage it was about 627 00:26:09,169 --> 00:26:06,960 1996 roughly right in there and I was 628 00:26:10,669 --> 00:26:09,179 visiting a friend of mine down in Sierra 629 00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:10,679 Vista and in Sierra Vista you can see 630 00:26:15,230 --> 00:26:12,720 the mountain range about five miles away 631 00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:15,240 right and then at night you can see this 632 00:26:19,490 --> 00:26:16,880 little blimp they have a blimp there 633 00:26:21,289 --> 00:26:19,500 that has a little light on it and it's 634 00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:21,299 got a radar on it right 635 00:26:26,330 --> 00:26:23,520 and it's probably like 30 or 40 feet 636 00:26:28,850 --> 00:26:26,340 long or whatever so anyways back during 637 00:26:30,110 --> 00:26:28,860 that time you know in the mid 90s we 638 00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:30,120 didn't have 639 00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:31,679 um you know internet or anything like 640 00:26:36,350 --> 00:26:34,080 that so we only paid attention to like 641 00:26:38,570 --> 00:26:36,360 local news and things like that maybe 642 00:26:40,850 --> 00:26:38,580 we'd see something on about Tucson but 643 00:26:43,250 --> 00:26:40,860 you know we never knew what was going on 644 00:26:44,750 --> 00:26:43,260 in Phoenix so during this time I found 645 00:26:47,690 --> 00:26:44,760 out years later about the Phoenix Lights 646 00:26:49,549 --> 00:26:47,700 so I'm not sure if it happened during 647 00:26:52,730 --> 00:26:49,559 that time or that exact same day 648 00:26:55,789 --> 00:26:52,740 somewhere around there right so anyways 649 00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:55,799 we're down there and it's I don't know 650 00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:58,799 maybe 9 30 10 30 at night it's not late 651 00:27:01,909 --> 00:27:00,240 because we have to go back to Tucson 652 00:27:04,190 --> 00:27:01,919 later on that night we were down there 653 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:04,200 picking up a uh amp or something all 654 00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:06,480 these guys were in a band so they you 655 00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:07,919 know musical instruments and stuff like 656 00:27:11,570 --> 00:27:10,080 that and I tried learning the guitar a 657 00:27:13,850 --> 00:27:11,580 little bit you know I could do like 658 00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:13,860 harmonics and a couple of chords but I 659 00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:15,720 couldn't really do much with that so 660 00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:17,580 anyways we were down there and it was 661 00:27:20,210 --> 00:27:18,840 night time and he's got a bunch of dogs 662 00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:20,220 running around sitting he's got this 663 00:27:24,529 --> 00:27:21,900 little Oasis we're we're all sitting 664 00:27:26,810 --> 00:27:24,539 around this fire pit right so all of a 665 00:27:28,970 --> 00:27:26,820 sudden the dogs start freaking out right 666 00:27:30,769 --> 00:27:28,980 and we're like what's going on you know 667 00:27:32,390 --> 00:27:30,779 he's playing guitar or whatever jabbing 668 00:27:33,950 --> 00:27:32,400 out with stupid songs it's pretty funny 669 00:27:35,930 --> 00:27:33,960 we're just having a good time 670 00:27:38,330 --> 00:27:35,940 and so they start running towards the 671 00:27:40,730 --> 00:27:38,340 mountain or towards the front gate which 672 00:27:42,769 --> 00:27:40,740 is like an acre property and it's night 673 00:27:44,450 --> 00:27:42,779 time you can see some Stars a little bit 674 00:27:46,430 --> 00:27:44,460 of moon glow but you can't really see 675 00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:46,440 anything so anyways these dogs are 676 00:27:50,450 --> 00:27:48,000 barking they run towards the gate and 677 00:27:52,010 --> 00:27:50,460 there's like five of us so 678 00:27:53,870 --> 00:27:52,020 we're standing there looking at this we 679 00:27:56,750 --> 00:27:53,880 all get up and walk over to look at the 680 00:28:00,289 --> 00:27:56,760 dogs right okay so and then all of a 681 00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:00,299 sudden we look up in the sky 682 00:28:05,470 --> 00:28:04,380 and there is a massive and I mean 683 00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:05,480 massive 684 00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:08,640 triangular craft 685 00:28:14,450 --> 00:28:12,240 coming over us really slowly and it's 686 00:28:16,970 --> 00:28:14,460 absolutely massive 687 00:28:19,370 --> 00:28:16,980 I mean huge and it's it's cruising along 688 00:28:21,470 --> 00:28:19,380 super slow and as it you know it just 689 00:28:23,690 --> 00:28:21,480 completely blacked out the stars in that 690 00:28:25,690 --> 00:28:23,700 formation so we could see the you know 691 00:28:27,950 --> 00:28:25,700 the shape of it so as it's going forward 692 00:28:29,930 --> 00:28:27,960 you know the dogs have stopped barking 693 00:28:31,370 --> 00:28:29,940 now and we're all just in awe and then 694 00:28:34,909 --> 00:28:31,380 you can see the back and on the back 695 00:28:37,730 --> 00:28:34,919 there were two big like reddish orange 696 00:28:39,769 --> 00:28:37,740 lights okay so anyways this thing's 697 00:28:41,930 --> 00:28:39,779 these big glowing orange lights on the 698 00:28:43,789 --> 00:28:41,940 back of it and as it's going down it's 699 00:28:45,769 --> 00:28:43,799 going really slow something that big 700 00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:45,779 really can't make any turns anyways I 701 00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:46,559 guess 702 00:28:51,289 --> 00:28:49,200 so it's going down and now we can see 703 00:28:53,450 --> 00:28:51,299 that little blimp I had mentioned right 704 00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:53,460 and from the blimp we could start 705 00:28:58,850 --> 00:28:56,880 gauging how big it was so we had time to 706 00:29:01,010 --> 00:28:58,860 discuss how huge this thing was and it 707 00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:01,020 was absolutely the biggest thing it was 708 00:29:04,370 --> 00:29:02,159 like a 709 00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:04,380 um a Starship Destroyer what's the name 710 00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:07,620 of the uh uh the battleships and Star 711 00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:09,840 Wars the Star Destroyer or something 712 00:29:14,269 --> 00:29:11,520 like that it's been a while outside yeah 713 00:29:16,610 --> 00:29:14,279 so it's something like that so as it's 714 00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:16,620 cruising down it starts to turn and then 715 00:29:20,930 --> 00:29:18,480 we can see the the nose of it the nose 716 00:29:23,870 --> 00:29:20,940 of it has another big 717 00:29:25,610 --> 00:29:23,880 yellowish reddish orange light and it's 718 00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:25,620 if you've ever if anybody's ever seen 719 00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,600 that they'll you can't it's unmistakable 720 00:29:31,730 --> 00:29:29,520 that when they say that you'll know what 721 00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:31,740 you'll know what it is right so anyways 722 00:29:37,730 --> 00:29:35,039 there's big object's now flying over the 723 00:29:39,649 --> 00:29:37,740 um Sierra Vista which is home to a 724 00:29:41,690 --> 00:29:39,659 military base for Huachuca and that's 725 00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:41,700 why the blimp is there for a low-flying 726 00:29:43,850 --> 00:29:43,200 aircraft for Smugglers and stuff like 727 00:29:46,010 --> 00:29:43,860 that 728 00:29:47,210 --> 00:29:46,020 so anyways we're discussing how big it 729 00:29:48,889 --> 00:29:47,220 is because we know how far away 730 00:29:50,510 --> 00:29:48,899 everything is because we live there 731 00:29:52,490 --> 00:29:50,520 right 732 00:29:54,769 --> 00:29:52,500 um we know it's five miles we know that 733 00:29:56,570 --> 00:29:54,779 blimp's 40 feet long we know Sierra 734 00:29:59,269 --> 00:29:56,580 Vista is you know right over here we 735 00:30:02,690 --> 00:29:59,279 know and as it cruises along it's just 736 00:30:04,909 --> 00:30:02,700 cruising along it starts to go north and 737 00:30:08,090 --> 00:30:04,919 then it kind of turned for some reason 738 00:30:10,010 --> 00:30:08,100 and just kind of did an entire 180. 739 00:30:12,169 --> 00:30:10,020 that's what it appeared to be doing 740 00:30:14,090 --> 00:30:12,179 anyways it did appear on the top of it 741 00:30:16,430 --> 00:30:14,100 you can see a bunch of little lights so 742 00:30:18,649 --> 00:30:16,440 this thing was huge right and I've never 743 00:30:20,690 --> 00:30:18,659 in my ears seen anybody talk about 744 00:30:22,190 --> 00:30:20,700 anything that big flying along I've 745 00:30:25,370 --> 00:30:22,200 heard about the triangle thing over the 746 00:30:27,169 --> 00:30:25,380 years but nothing this big and then as 747 00:30:28,669 --> 00:30:27,179 it then it just kind of flies off into 748 00:30:30,889 --> 00:30:28,679 the distance 749 00:30:34,010 --> 00:30:30,899 so that is the 750 00:30:37,130 --> 00:30:34,020 edited version of what I tell people 751 00:30:39,169 --> 00:30:37,140 right because the last part which I 752 00:30:43,389 --> 00:30:39,179 think is the coolest part 753 00:30:46,430 --> 00:30:43,399 okay when I tell people this stuff it's 754 00:30:49,250 --> 00:30:46,440 then it gets to where people have weird 755 00:30:51,710 --> 00:30:49,260 reactions right while this massive 756 00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:51,720 object is flying over our heads we're 757 00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:53,520 all hanging out buddies we're laughing 758 00:30:59,630 --> 00:30:56,159 oh my God we're talking about this I go 759 00:31:02,149 --> 00:30:59,640 check this out and I grab the guitar 760 00:31:03,529 --> 00:31:02,159 and I start to play Close Encounters of 761 00:31:09,850 --> 00:31:03,539 the Third Kind 762 00:31:14,269 --> 00:31:12,470 go faster faster and faster right and 763 00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,279 now where everybody's laughing right oh 764 00:31:17,810 --> 00:31:15,840 my God you're playing close encounters 765 00:31:21,230 --> 00:31:17,820 with third pattern there's a UFO flying 766 00:31:23,470 --> 00:31:21,240 by you know or flying over us right so 767 00:31:26,690 --> 00:31:23,480 people are just they're just like 768 00:31:28,909 --> 00:31:26,700 laughing and having a great time and so 769 00:31:31,010 --> 00:31:28,919 that happened okay and I don't tell 770 00:31:34,010 --> 00:31:31,020 people that that but also what happened 771 00:31:37,010 --> 00:31:34,020 during that time when I was playing that 772 00:31:40,850 --> 00:31:37,020 the lights on the damn thing started to 773 00:31:42,889 --> 00:31:40,860 dim and brighten as I was playing the 774 00:31:44,750 --> 00:31:42,899 harmonics and then as I was doing it 775 00:31:46,669 --> 00:31:44,760 faster and faster it would dim and get 776 00:31:48,529 --> 00:31:46,679 faster and faster not like blinking or 777 00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:48,539 anything crazy like that and then as I 778 00:31:52,370 --> 00:31:50,460 slowed down and stop the lights went 779 00:31:53,570 --> 00:31:52,380 completely solid again and it just kept 780 00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:53,580 crazy along 781 00:31:59,870 --> 00:31:57,600 and was it contact I don't know and I 782 00:32:02,389 --> 00:31:59,880 don't care but it was probably the most 783 00:32:04,190 --> 00:32:02,399 coolest thing I've ever seen 784 00:32:05,450 --> 00:32:04,200 um people you know I don't tell people 785 00:32:08,810 --> 00:32:05,460 about it because it's a weird thing but 786 00:32:10,130 --> 00:32:08,820 it happened around 96 and uh it may have 787 00:32:11,870 --> 00:32:10,140 been the same day as the Phoenix Lights 788 00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:11,880 I don't know I didn't hear about that 789 00:32:16,250 --> 00:32:13,679 the Phoenix Lights 10 years later right 790 00:32:18,409 --> 00:32:16,260 yeah probably about 10 years later and 791 00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:18,419 then when we told our people you know 792 00:32:22,970 --> 00:32:20,640 relatives and friends and family about 793 00:32:25,730 --> 00:32:22,980 it in town and tombstones is only you 794 00:32:28,250 --> 00:32:25,740 know 1200 people immediately the rumors 795 00:32:29,870 --> 00:32:28,260 spread that we're all on drugs because 796 00:32:32,029 --> 00:32:29,880 we lived in Tucson so nobody knew what 797 00:32:34,130 --> 00:32:32,039 we were doing or whatever 798 00:32:35,810 --> 00:32:34,140 and everybody was freaking out about us 799 00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:35,820 when I came back down like a week later 800 00:32:40,730 --> 00:32:37,679 something like that I mean it's just 801 00:32:43,610 --> 00:32:40,740 rumors were just crazy and I was like 802 00:32:44,870 --> 00:32:43,620 you guys can kick rocks you know and and 803 00:32:47,510 --> 00:32:44,880 then the other guys who were still 804 00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:47,520 living down there they I asked them 805 00:32:51,049 --> 00:32:49,140 um if they told anybody and they were 806 00:32:52,490 --> 00:32:51,059 just like we're not we can't we're not 807 00:32:54,350 --> 00:32:52,500 telling anybody so they just didn't want 808 00:32:56,750 --> 00:32:54,360 to talk about it because their friends 809 00:32:58,250 --> 00:32:56,760 and stuff like that started really just 810 00:33:00,049 --> 00:32:58,260 like looking all weird at them or 811 00:33:02,090 --> 00:33:00,059 whatever personally I didn't give a crap 812 00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:02,100 right and so it kind of just put this in 813 00:33:05,450 --> 00:33:04,559 my mind that okay you know don't talk 814 00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:05,460 about that because people think it's 815 00:33:10,370 --> 00:33:07,320 weird and when I tell people it's you 816 00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:10,380 know they tend to you know they take the 817 00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:12,600 first version and they're like wowed by 818 00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:14,580 it and then when I tell them the other 819 00:33:18,889 --> 00:33:16,380 things that I have and the cool stuff 820 00:33:21,649 --> 00:33:18,899 what I think is awesome and Kick-Ass 821 00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:21,659 then they immediately dismiss me as 822 00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:24,480 right and that's when it gets a 823 00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:25,980 little a little weird and then during 824 00:33:29,389 --> 00:33:27,840 that time for me after that I kind of 825 00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:29,399 just lost interest in the whole alien 826 00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,500 thing because in my mind how can 827 00:33:36,409 --> 00:33:33,840 something this big fly down over a 828 00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:36,419 Communications military base and fly 829 00:33:41,570 --> 00:33:38,399 across their base town it's a military 830 00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:41,580 Town Sierra Vista right and nobody saw 831 00:33:45,289 --> 00:33:42,960 it and it was like 10 o'clock at night 832 00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:45,299 and nobody said anything about it so in 833 00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:47,760 my opinion it was like okay I've had 834 00:33:51,649 --> 00:33:50,159 enough of this crap I'm moving on so it 835 00:33:53,630 --> 00:33:51,659 took a while before I started watching 836 00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:53,640 you know Alien movies and things like 837 00:33:57,710 --> 00:33:55,440 that and I'm trying to watch some of the 838 00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:57,720 other stuff where um people are giving 839 00:34:00,529 --> 00:33:59,279 their descriptions of the videos or 840 00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:00,539 whatever they all look like they've just 841 00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:02,640 been traumatized by you know somebody 842 00:34:08,089 --> 00:34:05,220 just beat them horribly bad I saw 843 00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:08,099 something or whatever right and to me it 844 00:34:13,490 --> 00:34:11,760 was the coolest thing ever and I 845 00:34:20,690 --> 00:34:13,500 don't know that's what happened and 846 00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:23,270 hey Ryan my name's Mike I am from 847 00:34:27,950 --> 00:34:25,200 Australia and I've got a couple of 848 00:34:30,589 --> 00:34:27,960 experiences that I'd like to share 849 00:34:33,470 --> 00:34:30,599 these all happened a long time ago now 850 00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:33,480 over 20 years ago but yeah they've 851 00:34:40,129 --> 00:34:36,540 really stuck in my mind and yeah I just 852 00:34:42,409 --> 00:34:40,139 want to sort of uh share them so yeah 853 00:34:43,369 --> 00:34:42,419 the first strange thing I ever saw in 854 00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:43,379 the sky 855 00:34:50,030 --> 00:34:47,220 was in late 1999. my girlfriend and I 856 00:34:52,609 --> 00:34:50,040 went camping in this National Park in 857 00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:52,619 remote Eastern Victoria 858 00:34:57,950 --> 00:34:55,679 so it's it's on the coast and we were 859 00:35:00,109 --> 00:34:57,960 camping in the forest just a couple of 860 00:35:02,270 --> 00:35:00,119 minutes walk from the beach so one night 861 00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:02,280 we decided we'd go down to the water 862 00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:06,240 just to watch the stars and listen to 863 00:35:09,650 --> 00:35:07,200 the ocean 864 00:35:12,290 --> 00:35:09,660 so we're lying in these sand dunes and 865 00:35:13,370 --> 00:35:12,300 at one point my girlfriend says what's 866 00:35:16,010 --> 00:35:13,380 that 867 00:35:17,210 --> 00:35:16,020 and she points out these three stars 868 00:35:20,690 --> 00:35:17,220 that are moving 869 00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:20,700 so automatically you know we knew 870 00:35:25,730 --> 00:35:22,800 it was something a bit strange 871 00:35:28,250 --> 00:35:25,740 so there's these three stars in a 872 00:35:30,530 --> 00:35:28,260 perfect triangle formation 873 00:35:34,730 --> 00:35:30,540 moving really fast as well so faster 874 00:35:36,109 --> 00:35:34,740 than a satellite and faster than a plane 875 00:35:38,329 --> 00:35:36,119 started started trying to figure out 876 00:35:41,450 --> 00:35:38,339 exactly what it was so as it moved 877 00:35:43,310 --> 00:35:41,460 across the sky and we had a view of the 878 00:35:45,890 --> 00:35:43,320 entire Sky basically so you know we're 879 00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:45,900 in the beach and it was a clear night no 880 00:35:51,050 --> 00:35:49,260 clouds we could see this thing go from 881 00:35:54,530 --> 00:35:51,060 one side of the sky 882 00:35:56,690 --> 00:35:54,540 basically directly overhead us right to 883 00:35:58,130 --> 00:35:56,700 the other side and my girlfriend saw 884 00:36:00,410 --> 00:35:58,140 them when they were pretty low in the 885 00:36:02,270 --> 00:36:00,420 sky so they were really noticeable they 886 00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:02,280 were really bright 887 00:36:08,690 --> 00:36:05,760 so yeah as I moved across Stars it this 888 00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:08,700 triangle didn't block anything so it 889 00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:11,760 wasn't one single object it was three 890 00:36:15,490 --> 00:36:13,200 separate things 891 00:36:18,589 --> 00:36:15,500 so yeah perfect perfect 892 00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:18,599 equilateral triangle and 893 00:36:21,770 --> 00:36:20,940 one of the points was like leading the 894 00:36:24,109 --> 00:36:21,780 way 895 00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:24,119 so as it moved across the sky 896 00:36:28,970 --> 00:36:26,760 this these things sort of stayed in 897 00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:28,980 formation they didn't like 898 00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:32,160 yeah stayed stating as a triangle didn't 899 00:36:38,329 --> 00:36:35,760 slow down didn't change direction or or 900 00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:38,339 anything like that and yeah stayed the 901 00:36:41,329 --> 00:36:40,500 same brightness all the way across the 902 00:36:44,930 --> 00:36:41,339 sky 903 00:36:47,329 --> 00:36:44,940 and uh and there's no sound either so 904 00:36:50,450 --> 00:36:47,339 yeah it was it was really weird really 905 00:36:52,370 --> 00:36:50,460 strange no idea what it was 906 00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:52,380 um and the strange thing as well just a 907 00:36:58,130 --> 00:36:54,240 couple of weeks later 908 00:37:01,849 --> 00:36:58,140 is that we saw a second uh strange thing 909 00:37:05,150 --> 00:37:01,859 in the sky so with my girlfriend again 910 00:37:06,410 --> 00:37:05,160 we went for this walk one afternoon in 911 00:37:08,810 --> 00:37:06,420 this park 912 00:37:11,089 --> 00:37:08,820 right on the outskirts of Melbourne 913 00:37:13,310 --> 00:37:11,099 right right um at the at the north of 914 00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:13,320 the city there's this park 915 00:37:17,690 --> 00:37:16,320 which kind of overlooks the airport 916 00:37:19,550 --> 00:37:17,700 um yeah there's a hill which overlooks 917 00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:19,560 the airport so yeah one afternoon we're 918 00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:21,599 up there just going for a walk 919 00:37:25,730 --> 00:37:24,960 and we noticed this light appear in the 920 00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:25,740 sky 921 00:37:30,829 --> 00:37:27,960 so it's it's like it's late afternoon 922 00:37:33,950 --> 00:37:30,839 but still daylight um the sky is still 923 00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:33,960 you know it's still blue still still 924 00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:35,760 pretty light 925 00:37:41,450 --> 00:37:38,400 um but yeah this this bright light just 926 00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:41,460 appeared out of nowhere so 927 00:37:45,050 --> 00:37:43,200 um yeah just really 928 00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:45,060 quickly appeared from dim to really 929 00:37:48,530 --> 00:37:46,079 bright 930 00:37:51,230 --> 00:37:48,540 but you know we're near an airport 931 00:37:52,910 --> 00:37:51,240 and yeah we just didn't really 932 00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:52,920 pay too much attention to it we didn't 933 00:37:57,410 --> 00:37:55,440 didn't worry about it just you know just 934 00:37:59,930 --> 00:37:57,420 thought it was a Plane off in the 935 00:38:01,550 --> 00:37:59,940 distance somewhere so yeah we just kept 936 00:38:03,710 --> 00:38:01,560 walking talking 937 00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:03,720 um yeah a couple minutes later 938 00:38:07,849 --> 00:38:06,000 we noticed that this light that we'd 939 00:38:10,430 --> 00:38:07,859 seen earlier was still in the sky and it 940 00:38:12,349 --> 00:38:10,440 was still in like the same spot 941 00:38:14,930 --> 00:38:12,359 so then we thought that's that's yeah 942 00:38:17,810 --> 00:38:14,940 it's a bit unusual can't be can't be a 943 00:38:20,329 --> 00:38:17,820 plane it would have been moving you know 944 00:38:22,490 --> 00:38:20,339 so yeah we started really paying 945 00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:22,500 attention to this thing and it and it 946 00:38:26,690 --> 00:38:24,480 was not moving and it was it was bright 947 00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:26,700 so yeah 948 00:38:30,890 --> 00:38:28,320 there's still daylight and this thing 949 00:38:32,270 --> 00:38:30,900 was was bright it was it was really 950 00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:32,280 bright 951 00:38:35,329 --> 00:38:34,079 so it it didn't actually do anything 952 00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:35,339 though it just 953 00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:38,400 stayed in one spot but we were we were 954 00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:41,280 watching it for at least 10 minutes 955 00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:44,160 trying to figure out what it was 956 00:38:48,770 --> 00:38:46,800 and we had no idea and given not what 957 00:38:50,930 --> 00:38:48,780 we'd seen a few weeks earlier as well 958 00:38:52,970 --> 00:38:50,940 you know we were sort of like 959 00:38:55,069 --> 00:38:52,980 you know paying attention to stuff in 960 00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:55,079 the sky all of a sudden so yeah this 961 00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:56,880 thing it 962 00:39:01,310 --> 00:38:59,040 again this wasn't something normal this 963 00:39:04,130 --> 00:39:01,320 this was a bit strange so yeah we were 964 00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:04,140 watching it it wasn't moving 965 00:39:07,069 --> 00:39:04,800 um 966 00:39:08,950 --> 00:39:07,079 it's two brightness two it's still too 967 00:39:11,329 --> 00:39:08,960 early in the evening to be 968 00:39:12,109 --> 00:39:11,339 a planet coming out or anything like 969 00:39:16,970 --> 00:39:12,119 that 970 00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:16,980 appear 971 00:39:22,190 --> 00:39:19,680 at you know after a few minutes or so it 972 00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:22,200 disappeared as well so 973 00:39:26,990 --> 00:39:25,200 um hadn't changed brightness at all and 974 00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:27,000 then all of a sudden just just quickly 975 00:39:33,710 --> 00:39:29,460 dimmed and and disappeared as well so 976 00:39:35,210 --> 00:39:33,720 yeah not normal very strange 977 00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:35,220 um so yeah then we started sort of 978 00:39:38,089 --> 00:39:36,900 expecting you know the third thing to 979 00:39:41,690 --> 00:39:38,099 happen 980 00:39:42,410 --> 00:39:41,700 um kind of soon but nothing did for a 981 00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:42,420 while 982 00:39:47,329 --> 00:39:45,359 until we went on this holiday to New 983 00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:47,339 Zealand and this is this is almost 984 00:39:55,130 --> 00:39:51,839 exactly 12 months after we saw the the 985 00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:55,140 triangle of lights down in Victoria 986 00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:57,839 yeah 12 months later we're in New 987 00:40:02,210 --> 00:40:00,000 Zealand uh down in the South Island we 988 00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:02,220 went on this hike we did the Kepler 989 00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:03,180 track 990 00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:06,240 so on the last night of that 991 00:40:10,430 --> 00:40:08,640 we we're camping near this lake so it's 992 00:40:11,930 --> 00:40:10,440 it's this walk that takes you know a 993 00:40:14,030 --> 00:40:11,940 couple of days through the Wilderness 994 00:40:15,550 --> 00:40:14,040 and on the last night where we're 995 00:40:17,390 --> 00:40:15,560 camping near this Lake 996 00:40:22,190 --> 00:40:17,400 and 997 00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:22,200 can't move just sort of like you know 998 00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:25,200 uh watching the stars come out 999 00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:26,880 pretty you know sort of right at the 1000 00:40:31,069 --> 00:40:27,839 start of the evening 1001 00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:31,079 I noticed this flash of light 1002 00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:33,119 uh like a star appearing and then 1003 00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:35,760 disappearing straight away so it got my 1004 00:40:42,290 --> 00:40:39,900 attention and as I looked I saw a second 1005 00:40:45,050 --> 00:40:42,300 and then a third flash again like just 1006 00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:45,060 three really quick flashes of light the 1007 00:40:49,130 --> 00:40:46,560 first one was bright 1008 00:40:52,190 --> 00:40:49,140 the second one was less bright and the 1009 00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:52,200 third one was even less bright still 1010 00:40:55,849 --> 00:40:53,520 so I had like I'd never seen anything 1011 00:40:59,690 --> 00:40:55,859 like that before no idea what it was 1012 00:41:01,130 --> 00:40:59,700 but it was all over in a second so I 1013 00:41:02,510 --> 00:41:01,140 didn't really you know didn't think too 1014 00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:02,520 much about it didn't worry about it at 1015 00:41:07,370 --> 00:41:03,720 all 1016 00:41:10,370 --> 00:41:07,380 but as a sky so it got darker 1017 00:41:12,410 --> 00:41:10,380 um yeah you look across the lake to 1018 00:41:13,310 --> 00:41:12,420 these mountains a couple of kilometers 1019 00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:13,320 away 1020 00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:15,960 I feel like fairly big mountains 1021 00:41:21,470 --> 00:41:18,300 um so yes this guy got darker we noticed 1022 00:41:24,770 --> 00:41:21,480 this orange glow coming from near the 1023 00:41:28,130 --> 00:41:24,780 peak of one of the mountains and yeah it 1024 00:41:30,170 --> 00:41:28,140 looked like a fire so I was thinking I 1025 00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:30,180 was going to have to start walking again 1026 00:41:34,430 --> 00:41:32,640 you know to the to the darkness and try 1027 00:41:37,130 --> 00:41:34,440 and alert somebody because yeah it 1028 00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:37,140 looked exactly like like what we what we 1029 00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:39,240 guessed was a fire 1030 00:41:43,790 --> 00:41:41,040 but before 1031 00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:43,800 I could get going and do any of that 1032 00:41:51,170 --> 00:41:47,280 it changed from this sort of like uh 1033 00:41:53,450 --> 00:41:51,180 like diffuse glow sort of thing into a 1034 00:41:56,329 --> 00:41:53,460 distinct beam 1035 00:41:58,609 --> 00:41:56,339 and and actually like 1036 00:42:01,069 --> 00:41:58,619 then we stopped worrying because then we 1037 00:42:02,329 --> 00:42:01,079 thought oh maybe it's just a a car it 1038 00:42:04,670 --> 00:42:02,339 looked like you know I guess car 1039 00:42:06,349 --> 00:42:04,680 headlights or something on like a car 1040 00:42:09,050 --> 00:42:06,359 going up the mountain 1041 00:42:10,250 --> 00:42:09,060 so yeah we relaxed about it at that 1042 00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:10,260 point 1043 00:42:13,609 --> 00:42:12,240 so we're just watching this for for a 1044 00:42:14,990 --> 00:42:13,619 few minutes and then it sort of dawned 1045 00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:15,000 on us that 1046 00:42:23,089 --> 00:42:20,160 we're looking into pure Wilderness and 1047 00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:23,099 you know there's no roads there's then 1048 00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:25,440 there's there's nothing out there so it 1049 00:42:29,210 --> 00:42:28,560 couldn't be a car 1050 00:42:31,250 --> 00:42:29,220 um 1051 00:42:34,609 --> 00:42:31,260 and also like we're watching it for a 1052 00:42:36,349 --> 00:42:34,619 while so if it was a car it would have 1053 00:42:38,089 --> 00:42:36,359 would have sort of moved somewhere would 1054 00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:38,099 have got where it was going but 1055 00:42:43,790 --> 00:42:41,280 this this uh this this beam of light 1056 00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:43,800 thing was just sort of like you know 1057 00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:46,560 moving it's mostly pointing up but just 1058 00:42:49,069 --> 00:42:48,240 you know moving from side to side as 1059 00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:49,079 well 1060 00:42:54,650 --> 00:42:53,520 know after these flashes of light and 1061 00:42:56,510 --> 00:42:54,660 now this 1062 00:42:59,210 --> 00:42:56,520 then start to realize that things are 1063 00:43:00,010 --> 00:42:59,220 getting a bit strange 1064 00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:00,020 um 1065 00:43:04,490 --> 00:43:03,119 yeah but the strange thing is like my 1066 00:43:06,050 --> 00:43:04,500 reaction 1067 00:43:08,270 --> 00:43:06,060 my girlfriend 1068 00:43:09,770 --> 00:43:08,280 had already sort of gone back to the 1069 00:43:13,010 --> 00:43:09,780 tent 1070 00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:13,020 and I did the same thing as well so I 1071 00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:14,880 I'm the one that saw the flashes of 1072 00:43:19,730 --> 00:43:17,040 light and then we both saw 1073 00:43:20,809 --> 00:43:19,740 this glow turning to something a bit 1074 00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:20,819 weirder 1075 00:43:25,309 --> 00:43:22,560 but 1076 00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:25,319 yeah my reaction was just to go go to 1077 00:43:29,809 --> 00:43:27,599 sleep as well go go back into the tent 1078 00:43:32,450 --> 00:43:29,819 and just just fall asleep so looking 1079 00:43:33,950 --> 00:43:32,460 back it's kind of strange that I saw all 1080 00:43:36,290 --> 00:43:33,960 this stuff develop 1081 00:43:38,690 --> 00:43:36,300 I'll sort of get weirder but I don't 1082 00:43:40,970 --> 00:43:38,700 know what happened I always kind of wish 1083 00:43:42,650 --> 00:43:40,980 I had sort of stuck it around and seen 1084 00:43:44,210 --> 00:43:42,660 more but at the time 1085 00:43:47,089 --> 00:43:44,220 you know there's a little bit of fear 1086 00:43:47,809 --> 00:43:47,099 involved so I think it was a bit of like 1087 00:43:49,849 --> 00:43:47,819 um 1088 00:43:51,950 --> 00:43:49,859 fight or flight then the natural 1089 00:43:54,410 --> 00:43:51,960 response was just to 1090 00:43:57,530 --> 00:43:54,420 sort of you know sort of hide from it 1091 00:43:58,970 --> 00:43:57,540 and um and go to sleep so that was a bit 1092 00:44:04,490 --> 00:43:58,980 strange 1093 00:44:06,890 --> 00:44:04,500 those the three flashes of light which 1094 00:44:09,230 --> 00:44:06,900 was the first thing I saw and yeah even 1095 00:44:11,450 --> 00:44:09,240 at that time I just did I didn't worry 1096 00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:11,460 about it at all so even even having seen 1097 00:44:16,130 --> 00:44:14,160 you know that triangle of light 1098 00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:16,140 instantly I knew that was a bit strange 1099 00:44:19,550 --> 00:44:18,480 the flashes of light was a little bit 1100 00:44:21,470 --> 00:44:19,560 strange but 1101 00:44:25,130 --> 00:44:21,480 didn't didn't really worry me 1102 00:44:27,410 --> 00:44:25,140 but and the weird thing as well is 1103 00:44:29,930 --> 00:44:27,420 I've ended up seeing that like quite a 1104 00:44:31,490 --> 00:44:29,940 lot over the years 1105 00:44:33,410 --> 00:44:31,500 um you ended up living in the country 1106 00:44:37,250 --> 00:44:33,420 for a while 1107 00:44:40,730 --> 00:44:37,260 so and it wasn't unusual to be out in a 1108 00:44:43,370 --> 00:44:40,740 paddock in the evening and yeah it just 1109 00:44:46,430 --> 00:44:43,380 happened to look up and see 1110 00:44:48,349 --> 00:44:46,440 three flashes again like bright less 1111 00:44:53,569 --> 00:44:48,359 bright 1112 00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:53,579 it happened like so often that it just 1113 00:44:58,130 --> 00:44:55,920 it wasn't even a surprise after a while 1114 00:45:01,849 --> 00:44:58,140 and it's something that 1115 00:45:04,970 --> 00:45:01,859 never I I never was concerned at all 1116 00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:04,980 about it never never really cared a hell 1117 00:45:08,809 --> 00:45:06,720 of a lot about it it's only looking back 1118 00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:08,819 I think it's strange because I haven't 1119 00:45:13,210 --> 00:45:11,280 seen it for for a while but 1120 00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:13,220 so here's the other thing that 1121 00:45:17,930 --> 00:45:15,780 I used to really love looking at the sky 1122 00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:17,940 so even as a kid 1123 00:45:22,250 --> 00:45:19,740 spend a lot of time looking up like when 1124 00:45:25,010 --> 00:45:22,260 I was little I wanted to be a pilot 1125 00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:25,020 and I ended up getting interested in 1126 00:45:30,829 --> 00:45:27,359 astronomy as well as a kid so I spent a 1127 00:45:32,809 --> 00:45:30,839 lot of time looking up day and night and 1128 00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:32,819 you know in all those years I'd never 1129 00:45:38,210 --> 00:45:35,280 seen anything strange that triangle was 1130 00:45:41,390 --> 00:45:38,220 the first strange thing I'd ever seen 1131 00:45:43,550 --> 00:45:41,400 yeah so these um these flashes a lot are 1132 00:45:46,190 --> 00:45:43,560 you always used to look up but then yeah 1133 00:45:48,950 --> 00:45:46,200 I've sort of like stopped looking up so 1134 00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:48,960 the night sky used to used to spend a 1135 00:45:52,849 --> 00:45:50,640 lot of like it was outside I'd always 1136 00:45:53,809 --> 00:45:52,859 look up I'd always want to sort of see 1137 00:45:55,250 --> 00:45:53,819 something 1138 00:45:57,650 --> 00:45:55,260 but 1139 00:45:59,329 --> 00:45:57,660 yeah over the years that's that's sort 1140 00:46:02,030 --> 00:45:59,339 of like disappeared and it's not just 1141 00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:02,040 that my interest has disappeared like 1142 00:46:06,050 --> 00:46:04,319 there's my feelings about it have 1143 00:46:08,690 --> 00:46:06,060 changed as well so 1144 00:46:10,250 --> 00:46:08,700 if I'm out at night on a really really 1145 00:46:13,370 --> 00:46:10,260 clear night 1146 00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:13,380 I I yeah I do sort of avoid looking up 1147 00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:14,640 it's like 1148 00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:18,000 like this like background sort of 1149 00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:21,359 not wanting to to see what might be 1150 00:46:27,230 --> 00:46:24,000 there so that's that's a little bit of a 1151 00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:27,240 shame I guess but yeah I still I still 1152 00:46:31,309 --> 00:46:29,280 like planes so I still look up during 1153 00:46:34,250 --> 00:46:31,319 the day I've got no problem with that 1154 00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:34,260 okay right um yeah I hope uh somebody 1155 00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:35,280 else 1156 00:46:39,530 --> 00:46:37,680 is maybe prompted to to share stuff that 1157 00:46:40,490 --> 00:46:39,540 they've seen even if it might be a long 1158 00:46:43,370 --> 00:46:40,500 time ago 1159 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:43,380 thanks love the podcast uh yeah keep it 1160 00:46:59,690 --> 00:46:45,050 up mate thanks 1161 00:47:03,710 --> 00:47:01,730 somewhere in the skies is produced by 1162 00:47:05,450 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